Oct 21, 2026 Show with Kat Owens on “Eat by Faith: Nourishing Yourself & Your Family in Light of Creation, Dominion & the Gospel” (Part 2)

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The time slipped by so quickly during part one of our discussion back in August that I knew I had to have her back to discuss some things that I wanted to ask that I did not have time to ask. Her name is Kat Owens, and she is a functional nutritional therapy practitioner, a certified personal trainer, follower of Jesus Christ, and author with Foundress Press.

And we're going to be addressing part two of Eat by Faith, Nourishing Yourself and Your Family in Light of Creation, Dominion, and the Gospel, and that is the title of her book. And it is my honor and privilege to have you back on Iron Trip Insignia Radio, Kat Owens.

Thank you. I'm so glad to be back. And if anybody is interested, and you should look up the previous interview we did after this live program, go to ironsharpensironradio .com and type in the search engine Kat Owens, and that is K-A-T Owens, and you will see Kat's interview link for our first interview on August 27th, 2026.

And you will be fascinated and edified and blessed by listening to that. And we'll give you some information that we will not be addressing today. And of course, there will be some duplication, which inevitably happens when you have two parts of an interview on the same book.

But we hope that you are blessed by that later on after you listen to this live broadcast. It would probably be good to remind our listeners who heard you the first time or to let our listeners know who have not heard you yet, let them know for the first time, what is a functional nutritional therapist?

Yeah, so it's a certification that comes from an organization called the Nutritional Therapy Association. So it's not any kind of licensure, but it's just training. It's about a year long that's focused on more a holistic approach to nutrition and is equipping people who want to go out and teach nutrition in whatever capacity they're doing.

So they take kind of a Weston A. Price perspective, which is he was a dentist who traveled the world in the 30s looking at the diets of traditional cultures, and he wrote a pretty influential book about nutrition based on his observations.

So a lot of their approach is based on his work. It's not explicitly Christian, but I think it's one of the closest approaches out there to a Christian approach or to a Christian worldview, just because it's not trying to look back to evolution like a lot of approaches to nutrition do.

It's not trying to say, his perspective wasn't trying to say, what did people eat when we were hunter gatherers or apes or anything? He's looking back at people 100 years ago, 200 years ago. So anyway, they have a pretty good program and they offer that certification for people who go through that program.

And that's called a nutritional therapy practitioner when you get that certification.

And I'm assuming that since you are a Reformed Baptist as well, that you do not believe we were apes at any time in history.

Correct. And that actually makes a big difference when it comes to the conclusions you're looking at with nutrition.

A Christian Framework for Food, Creation, and Dominion

And it probably good for you to summarize, before we move on to some new territory, of what you cover in the book in regarding to each of the primary things you list in your subtitle, nourishing yourself and your family in light of creation, dominion, and the gospel.

Perhaps you could summarize what you address in the book that we addressed the last time, and part one of this discussion, on those three major issues.

Yeah, so the first half of the book is just trying to lay a foundation for how can Christians think about nutrition and food? Because as I just mentioned briefly, a lot of what we hear about nutrition, the kind of recommendations we hear in the world right now, are coming from the perspective of evolution.

They're coming from this atheistic humanist worldview, or they're even coming directly from certain false religions. And you may not see that when you just are looking at things like the government dietary guidelines or hearing someone online talk about recommendations about nutrition.

But if you start digging a little bit, you'll see that those worldviews are deeply rooted in the conventional space and the alternative space. And so it really does affect the conclusions that you hear, the recommendations that you hear.

And I think it is even misleading people that we're getting all this information about nutrition from these false worldviews. And so I really wanted to lay a foundation about how do we think about this as Christians?

Because I really believe that this is one of these things that you can't say this is just neutral territory. You know, if it's not coming from a biblical worldview, it's coming from somewhere else. And so when we are looking at this question and we're starting out with thinking about God's creation, what does the Bible say about God's creation?

The book of nature is this ancient theological concept that there are certain things revealed about God and his created order just by looking at creation. So if we're looking at how did God create the world, what does the Bible say about creation?

That's going to inform us to start with about how can we think about food? How can we think about our relationship with food? And then I say dominion because I think that's a really important concept in this conversation about nutrition.

Most of the if you think about you go to a health food store and look around, you know, a lot of that stuff you can see the new age influences and or if you think about vegetarianism, there is there's a lot of this idea out there in nutrition.

I'd say also with environmentalism that humans are we're just another animal, maybe even like a blight on the earth that anything humans do to creation is just making it worse. The best thing we can do is touch it as little as possible.

We see we see that kind of mentality everywhere, I think today. And that's not what we see in the Bible. We know that God commissioned humans with dominion over creation. And that doesn't mean just getting to go and exploit it however we want.

I think that means good stewardship of creation. But that doesn't mean just leaving it alone. That means tending for it, caring for it, making it more beautiful, even putting this work in to improve upon it.

And that's actually a really relevant concept when we start talking about nutrition because I go into a lot more detail of my book. But just for example, if you were to say that humans are just another animal and we should be just living like animals, hunter gatherers, not touching creation any more than we have to, you could easily come to conclusions like, you know, maybe we should be eating like hunter gatherers, just whatever you forage and maybe eating raw food.

You know, there's a lot of weird conclusions you could come to if you're starting from that that worldview that we're just animals and should be eating like them. But if you believe that we were tasked with tending creation and stewarding and exercising dominion over it, then you can start to see that there is a really good beneficial role to things like raising animals and cultivating crops and cooking food and all these things that really do impact the conclusions we come to about nutrition.

And I say the gospel is kind of the last thing there in my subtitle because we can really relate almost anything to the gospel. But especially when we talk about things like eating meat and the ethics of that, there's a lot of tie-ins there with the gospel because what we see all throughout the Bible is this concept that death is required for there to be life.

And if you don't believe that and if you are just trying to avoid any kind of death, you can easily start saying things like, well, we shouldn't be killing animals and eating animals. But if you recognize that death is always required for there to be life, you will see that we have to eat animals to stay healthy.

And if you try to avoid that, you're only going to end up finding death one way or another, whether it's through the slow decline of your health. And I can talk about all the science behind that as well, or whether it's just through unintentional deaths you don't see in your food production, in the food production system.

But of course, the ultimate example of that concept of death for life is just that Jesus died so that we can have life. That's the greatest expression of that truth. But it's something we see all throughout creation and which applies to nutrition as well.

And the often repeated reminder from Christians who are concerned about health and nutrition is to remind people that our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, correct?

Yes. Yeah. And I think there's actually a lot of biblical justification for caring about health and caring about our bodies. And that's one very clear example. Yeah, it's just that verse. And people do talk about that a lot.

Unfortunately, I think a lot of times when Christians talk about that, they're only willing to go so far as to apply that to things like smoking or doing drugs, like the really obvious examples. But there's so much more to that, to how we can be caring about our bodies.

Peter’s Vision and Christian Freedom to Eat

Now, in Acts chapter 10, 9 through 16, there's a classic story there of a vision that Peter had, where a sheet was lowered that had on it all kinds of four-footed animals and crawling creatures of the earth and birds of the sky.

And a voice came to him, get up, Peter, kill and eat. And this was a shocking thing because these were unclean animals in the old covenant. Is this, in your opinion and from your knowledge, a permission from God, not only a permission from God, that we are free as Christians to eat anything as long as we know that the animal that we are eating is not poisonous or jeopardizing our life, but we are free to eat any animal, as grotesque as it may sound.

And not only that, but we should not be mandating the restriction of eating any animal. Like, for instance, during the coronavirus crisis, there were the rumors that it started by people who were eating bats that the Chinese were selling in the wet market, apparently, and other things that were certainly unclean in the old covenant.

Can a Christian eat bats?

Good question. I love that story. I think there's several really good takeaways from that story. And the first is that, yes, it's a pretty obvious example of something we see several times in the New Testament, which is that we are free to eat any kind of food.

And by free, I mean, I don't believe there's any moral, there's no moral restriction on certain foods. So we can't say that you're doing something wrong by eating any certain food, that you're sinning by eating any certain food.

And, you know, there are Christians today who try to say these dietary laws from the Old Testament, these still apply today. And first of all, I'd say stories like this, and then also Mark 7, Jesus declares all foods clean.

I think those are pretty clear examples that, you know, it's just like what Jesus says. It's not what goes into you that makes you unclean. It's what goes out. So when we're talking about nutrition, I always want to be clear that we're not talking about making any kind of moral division about food, that this food is, you're sinning if you're eating this food, or it's morally righteous if you're eating this food.

And I think we have to be very clear about that up front and really even try to address these false teachings of people who are trying to who are trying to bind Christians and say that, no, you do still have to follow these dietary laws.

That said, I think there are some things we can learn from the Old Testament dietary laws. There was a lot of I think there was a lot of purposes for these laws in the Old Testament. They were some of them were symbolic.

Some of them were meant to kind of separate the Israelites from the cultures around them and the foods that the cultures around them were eating. I'm not sure we fully know what all the purposes what were of those laws.

But I think there are some things we can learn from them from a health perspective. I definitely don't advocate just following the dietary laws. There are some people now who try to do that as well. They say, you know, we're free to eat all these foods, but you're healthier if you still avoid pork and all these things.

I don't think it's that simple. I think that one of the things we can learn if we look at these laws is that most all of these distinctions were made based on what the animals were eating. So animals that were eating other animals or they were eating some kind of waste products.

We can see even just scientifically that those are animals that are going to bioaccumulate toxins, that are going to be more likely to carry diseases. A bat would be a perfect example that that's something that is going to be likely to be able to pass on diseases.

There goes my dinner plans. Sorry to ruin anyone's plans there. Yeah, we can still look at those and see that there were some practical reasons for them. But even today, I don't think the best way to apply those to our lives today is even just to say, well, we should be avoiding all the unclean meats, you know, like pigs or something.

Today, I think the bigger problem we have today is that a lot of the animals that are being raised for food today are being raised in these really unsanitary, really unnatural environments, being fed really unnatural diets.

And we can see that that affects them and it affects the nutrition of even their meat when we're eating them. So that's going to apply a lot to things like chickens and pigs that are raised in these confinement animal feeding operations today.

Nothing morally unrighteous about eating those at all. But we can see practically that when those animals are being given a diet that's unnatural to them, when they're being fed a lot of waste products because that's just the cheapest way to fatten up a pig or a chicken today, that it does affect things like how nutritious their meat is, the quality of the fat that we're getting when we eat them.

And so one thing I think we can learn from those laws today is that the quality of meat is something that has an impact on our health and ruminants. So things like cows or sheep or goats, these clean animals in the Old Testament dietary laws, there was a reason those were clean animals.

Ruminants are amazing creations where they can take in grass and weeds and all kinds of stuff that we can't eat and turn that into really good, clean nutrition through their meat, through their milk for us.

And they're such good processors of what they eat that you can actually feed a ruminant like a cow a pretty unnatural diet and not much of that is actually going to come through to you. So this is much less of a concern with beef than with, I would say, things like chickens or pigs.

So for one thing, I think this tells us that when we look at it, we can see that cows are pretty amazing creatures and we don't have to be so concerned with the quality of beef. But things like chickens or pigs where there is more of a concern about what they eat is something that we could still focus on today.

And the last thing I think is really cool about that story in Acts 10 about Peter receiving that vision of the sheet is that, you know, the whole purpose, he was sitting on the rooftop contemplating, why did God show me this vision?

Why am I supposed to go eat all these unclean meats that I've never eaten before? And then the servants of this Gentile centurion Cornelius come to him and say, basically come tell our master Cornelius your message.

And he goes with them. And if he was still following those dietary laws, he probably wouldn't even have been able to go into that Gentile's house because that would have been considered unclean. You know, who knows what meat they were cooking in that house.

But because he was free to go into that house, he was able to share the gospel with him. Cornelius, his whole family converted. It's often considered the first Gentile conversion in the New Testament.

And so I think the other lesson there is that food and nutrition is secondary to more important things like the gospel, these things that are eternal, human souls, God's word, things like that, because there probably were still some practical reasons for Peter to be following the dietary laws.

But it wasn't as important as being able to go and talk to Cornelius and tell him about.

Jesus. Having said that, I know that some of the apologetic used by professing Christians who have a rigid vegetarian lifestyle, and they actually believe that that is a superior way to live as a Christian, it is more obedient and so on.

And by the way, before I forget, I found out after our interview that you surprisingly were right about that there was only a minority of Seventh-day Adventists who are strict vegetarians. And I thought the opposite because I was judging my memory on the issue from the fact that most Seventh-day Adventists that I've ever had conversations with were pastors, not your average member.

And I think that perhaps a lot of pastors maybe place a higher importance on that kind of thing in the Seventh-day Adventist church. But some of them would say that that vision of Peter's is completely and only symbolic of Jew and Gentile being united in Christ.

And they give as a reason, some of them anyway, that why would God want to bring unhealthy foods, like you were just mentioning, the unclean foods, where eating other animals and eating excrement and all kinds of things, why would God want to introduce that nutritionally harmful diet to his own children, meaning the Christians?

And so do you have any response to that kind of logic?

That's interesting. I actually didn't know that about the pastors being more likely to be vegetarian.

That's interesting. And that's just from my experience, by the way. I'm not saying that I did any kind of poll.

Yeah, I actually don't know how many of them follow certain diets, what the proportions are. But yeah, that's interesting. And I actually didn't know that either, that they'll make that argument that that's all symbolic.

But it makes sense that they place such an emphasis on health. And from the very start, they've always advocated following the Old Testament dietary laws about clean and unclean meats. So it makes sense to me that they would have to try to come up with a new interpretation of that story somehow, because the message in it seems pretty clear.

Right. It does.

Keto, Carnivore Diets, and Metabolic Health

And one thing that I think we should have you clarify, because it is such a huge deal today, probably I don't even remember how long ago this became extremely popular, maybe 30 years ago or so, but even much more popular today, is the all meat diet, the keto and the other diets that people on these diets refrain from carbs completely, and some of them even vegetables and so on.

And you are opposed to that, but you did say that to kickstart a weight loss for people who are really perhaps morbidly obese or something, and their physical condition is threatening their life, that maybe this would be something acceptable only for a kickstart.

But you did not recommend it for a lifetime way of living, just eating meat.

Yeah, that's a good thing to bring up, because it's obviously really popular today. Yeah, so the first thing I'll say is that if you look at the arguments for keto, carnivore, the people who are advocating this, it's largely based on evolution.

They'll say, you know, we were hunter gatherers and we evolved big brains because we ate meat. And so therefore it's the superior food and it's all we should be eating. And it is interesting to see that people can actually use evolution to justify just about anything they want.

I've seen people advocate for basically fruitarian diets based on evolution, people advocating carnivore diets based on evolution. But that's where they try to come at this from. And yes, I would say that we really do need carbs in our diet.

We obviously have very strong appetites for carbohydrates. Even people who've been on these keto carnivore diets for so long, you can see how much the craving for carbohydrates is still there. It's like they're fighting this constantly.

And I know people will claim they don't. Oh, I don't crave sugar anymore at all. I just want to eat meat. But I see people I know who are doing this, and it's hard to say that they're not still really craving sugar and carbohydrates and that you get a little bit and it's hard to control your appetite because your body's just like, I need that so bad.

But, you know, obviously we have strong appetites for carbohydrates. God made us that way for a reason. We have things like amylase, which is the digestive enzyme that our body produces, which is specifically for digesting starch.

You know, our bodies were made this way. It's really hard to say that for some reason we are not supposed to be eating carbohydrates or starches or sugars of any kind when you just look at how our bodies were created.

And we can look at the science and see that there's just there's so many benefits of eating carbohydrates. It's actually what's going to keep you metabolic. It's going to keep you insulin sensitive. It supports your thyroid function.

It's the main fuel that almost every cell in your body is using. Some cells have to. And, you know, I won't go too much into the science of all this, but one of the main arguments that keto carnivore people will say is that, well, you don't need carbohydrates because if you're not eating carbohydrates, your body is just making its own sugar.

Basically, you eat carbohydrates. It gets broken down into glucose. That glucose is the energy for your cells. But if you're not getting it, if you're not getting glucose from your food, from the carbohydrates in your food breaking down into glucose, your body can manufacture its own glucose.

And it will even keep your blood sugar at a pretty normal level, completely on its own. And so advocates of keto and carnivore will say, well, that's proof you don't need them in your diet. Your body can make its own.

I would say that's actually an intelligently designed backup mechanism for something because it's so important. You will die very quickly if you do not have any blood sugar, right? And because it's so important, if you're not eating it, your body has a backup mechanism to make it.

But we can also look at the science and see that when your body's having to make its own glucose, it's relying on a lot of stress hormones to do that. And so it's no wonder that long term people on keto carnivore diets, they're experiencing a lot of symptoms of just these constantly elevated stress hormones, but also metabolic problems are actually paradoxically going to get worse because your body is just losing more of its sensitivity to insulin and carbohydrates.

It's basically losing its ability to use them because it's just not doing it. And people have problems regulating their electrolytes. They often end up not sleeping well. There's just a lot of things that can crop up long term when people are doing this.

And yeah, I mentioned last time that for someone with an extreme metabolic, in some kind of extreme metabolic condition, cutting out carbs can bring a lot of blood values into normal ranges really quickly.

You can lose weight really quickly. A lot of symptoms will improve really quickly if you cut out carbohydrates, but it's not, I don't think it's a long term solution because you're just losing the ability to process glucose, which is the root problem to start with.

You're kind of just doubling down on that. And what you actually want to do is get your body to where it can use glucose more effectively. Long term, I would be more of a fan of what I mentioned in our last interview, which was more of like a high carb, low fat diet, maybe some calorie restriction in there intermittently if you need to lose weight.

Again, I won't go into all the details here, but I think there's better ways to go about the long term solution to metabolic problems.

Now, what do you say to people who, I know a number, quite a number of people who have dropped a ton of weight quickly by only eating meat, by being strict carnivores. And some of those folks, especially those that I know that did that years ago, couldn't keep it up and they gained perhaps sometimes even more weight than they used to carry.

But there are some people, perhaps especially those who are more new, who more recently in their lives have tried this and it's been successful. What do you say to those people when they say, I feel fine, I'm going to the doctor.

Well, the test seems to be fine and I'm healthy. I got energy. I'm working out like I've never worked out before. What do you say to those people?

Yeah, I won't argue at all that the people have those kind of benefits. I've seen it. I've seen it in my own family. But unfortunately, what I've seen long term is that it's your metabolism is just not in a good place.

And those people get to a point where they they eat any carbohydrates and they're just going to start gaining the weight back. And it's because their bodies just lost that ability to use carbohydrates well.

And they probably have been eating a lot less calories on this diet as well, which is something I don't like seeing long term. I think calorie restriction intermittently is the best way to go about weight loss.

So they've been restricting calories for a long time. They've obviously been restricting carbs for a long time. And they get to this point where their metabolism is just not in a good place. And any carbohydrates will be back again.

And I'll also say a lot of the benefits that people experience on keto carnivore are actually because of these stress hormones that get elevated when your body is having to make its own glucose. It's kind of like taking a steroid hormone.

There is things that will feel better when your stress hormones are elevated. You will feel like you have energy. It can suppress a lot of symptoms, at least short term. But long term, it's it's not good to have those constantly elevated stress hormones.

And so there are people who do this for quite a long time and they feel well on it. But unfortunately, I just think that these underlying health problems, they start to crop up at some point. And I think all the same benefits you can achieve through other methods and something like what I advocate, like intermittent calorie restriction and maybe like a high carb, low fat diet.

You may not lose weight as fast, but I don't think that should be the main goal. I want to see someone be able to lose weight and keep it off and keep their metabolism in a good place where they can go back to eating a normal amount of calories after they've lost weight and not be able to not gain all that weight back.

Because that, as you mentioned, it's very common with almost any kind of diet is people lose weight and then they gain the weight back afterwards. And it's just it's so hard not to start eating more calories again.

It's so hard not to start eating carbohydrates again at some point. And almost all these diets put your metabolism in a place where you just can't recover from that without gaining the weight back.

And before I go to the break, is there any recommended length of time where you would think it's safe for those people who have lost a lot of weight and they feel better than they ever had in their lives through carnivore diets, a length of time where you would recommend.

Now you've got to start eating carbs and you've got to revert to a more balanced way of living rather than the strict carnivore?

I think I'd almost always want to see someone trying to get back to that as soon as possible, even for someone who's starting out and trying to figure out, like, how do I get this metabolic condition under control?

I'm not sure it would ever actually be my first recommendation. You know, one situation I can think of. Where I would say this might be a good idea is women with PCOS who are really struggling to get pregnant.

What does that mean? I'm sorry, PCOS.

Oh, sorry. Polycystic ovary syndrome. It's basically just a metabolic condition that is affecting your hormones. And it's a big cause of infertility. And I have seen women struggling with infertility who have gone on a keto carnivore diet and just had miraculous improvements very, very quickly and been able to get pregnant when they've been trying for years and years and years.

That's a situation where I would say that's probably worth it, because to me, being able to have children is a higher priority than your, like, long-term health. And I have to say that carefully because usually that's the same thing.

You get healthier and you're going to be able to get pregnant. Keto is one thing that can get those hormones under control really quickly and allow women to get pregnant. And that would be a situation where I would say that's probably worth it just so that you are able to have children, not have to put that off any longer than you have to, and then work on fixing your metabolism through a better long-term method.

I can't think of a lot of other situations where I would say keto or carnivore is a good starting point because it's still not fixing the underlying problem.

I never heard of the fertility aspect before. That's fascinating. We have to go to our first commercial break. And if anybody has a question for Cat Owens on nutrition, our email address is chrisarnson at gmail dot com.

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