Confronting Ethnic Christian Nationalism and Israel: A Candid Discussion

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Welcome to another edition of The Rap Report. I'm your host, Andrew Rapoport, the Executive Director of Striving for Eternity and the Christian Podcast Community, of which this podcast is a proud member.

We are here to give you biblical interpretations and applications for the Christian life. And I am joined by my friend who goes by the name of Happy. So, you know, he's got to be a cheerful type of guy, if that's what everyone calls him.

But Hap's Addison, how are you doing, sir?

I'm doing pretty good. Just having a blessed day up here in Idaho.

Yeah, that's way better than that communist country you left. You fled from last time you were on the show. You were in a communist country known as California.

Yes, yes, I have escaped and I brought my family with me and we absolutely love it here.

Ethnic Christian Nationalism and the Roots of Separatism

So today's episode, I could sum up this way as Hap's Addison was right. I mean, that would sum it up right there. But Hap's, this was probably, I'm going to say two years ago. You and I, you called me up, we were having a conversation and you told me that there were these guys that were going hard against Israel.

And you were telling me that from your background, where you knew the source of this comes from. And I was like, yeah, I can't see Christian circles dividing over Israel. And Hap's, I'm going to say it here, publicly for all to hear, I was wrong, Hap's, you were right.

It happens.

It happens. So give folks a little bit of your background that I just referenced. And let's talk about what it is you started seeing, why you were concerned, and we'll talk about what we see going on today.

All right. Well, again, my name is Hap's Addison. And yeah, I was really brought up into the whole white supremacy movement when I was younger. And up until my 40s, I was a skinhead. So skinheads aren't racist, they're separatists.

It's a big difference. But and I got out of it, because of Christ. Christ called me out of the grave and places Holy Spirit inside of me. And so I've made it a, I don't know, just it's, I want to see people come out of these, these movements and come into Christ.

But because that's only it's only, it's not politics. It's not anything else where you can find peace. There's no peace in the world, but only peace in Christ. And so that's, that's my aim. That's my goal for everybody, you know, both the Jew or Greek, I don't care, you know, and, but no, I, about, about two years ago, so I got out of me, I stopped podcasting for about six months, six, eight months, something like that.

And, you know, that school that of mine that you taught at passing the torch, they were the only ones I was really having communications with. And this guy reached out to me. I'm not gonna mention his name or anything, but this, this guy reached out to me and was, was asking me questions.

He heard that I used to be a skinhead, and he found some racist stuff being said on X. Well, I'm not, I'm not on X, you know, and I'd had no desire to be on X. And he, he said, well, could you look at a Google drive for me?

And I was like, sure. He goes, because I'm finding a lot of racist stuff from Christians on there. I go, that's, that's a strong word, man. You know, it's a really, really strong word right there. You know, you can't just, he goes, well, it's just a whole bunch of Nazi stuff.

And I like, well, I'll take a look at it. But you know, and so I looked at it, and I was shocked. I was absolutely shocked. All the anti-Semitic, it, I mean, that was just the tip of the iceberg. And I reached back out to this investigative reporter guy, and I said, hey, I don't see racism going on right here.

What I see is it's a form of what's called separatism. So I told him, I go, racism calls for the extinction, the deletion of an ethnic race. Separatism just wants the whites to live over here and the blacks to live over here, the Jews to live over there.

And, you know, stuff like that. And he goes, well, could you just take a look at it again? I, he goes, there's something there. And I was like, sure. I went through it. It was like, I mean, hundreds of hours of stuff, content on there.

And then I saw something. And I saw this number after these names. And I was like, what? It says 1183. And I did not understand. I was like, why does that stand out so much? And I went, I just started like, paying attention, really reading the content and listening to these guys.

I'd go to their podcast and find out who they were, who is the Stone Choir, who is this, you know, and the number was 1183. And I, that's when I, it just hit me. I go, oh, oh, no. So for a lot of people that don't know, so skinheads, we, we adhere to this guy named David Lane, who wrote the 88 precepts.

And in there, every skinhead has to, we go by the, the numbers 1488, you get 14 tattooed right here in 88. So, so 14 words of David Lane in 88, heil Hitler. All right. The 14 words, I forgot them now, but it's about securing the white race, you know, only breeding with your own and stuff like that.

And when he left the movement up in Hayden Lake, Idaho, Hayden Lake, Idaho, they started Aryan Nations. Aryan Nations kept with the word, I mean, the 14 words of David Lane, and then 83, heil Christ. So the Jews were the, the cursed race, the blacks were cursed, all this.

And so they tried to recruit me in the nineties. They tried to recruit a lot of us comrades, us, you know, skinheads down in California. And so we, we came up and, and we didn't want nothing to do with them because we didn't believe in Christ, you know.

And so I'm going to 11 words, 11 words. So I found out that that was tied to Stephen Wolf. And so this picture was going around on the internet. It was the same, same thing. The Hayden Lake, Idaho, Aryan Nations, they're the ones that coined the phrase Christian nationalism.

All right. They're, you know, this has nothing to do with Doug Wilson or anything like that. They're the ones that coined the phrase.

Well, I don't, I don't know. Hold on. I'm going to, I'll push back on that a little because actually who I think coined the phrase was the liberal media to, to attack Christians saying that they're trying to take over the, you know, that Christians were doing an insurrection.

And then I know, no, this came out that they started.

Calling themselves the Christian nationalists back in like the seventies and eighties, eighties and nineties. Okay. Yeah. And so it was a picture of America with a cross in the very center with all these white beams of light coming out of it to all, all corners of the United States.

And but anyways yeah. So I, I immediately called that investigative reporter and I said, oh no, this is separatism. And there, I found a code behind each one of their names and he was blown away. I said, who are these guys?

And they go, well, we, we have identified the vast majority of them are Christian pastors. And I was shocked. I was like, no way. And he gave me a list of the names and everything. And I, so I just started following these guys and I'm like, they're not coming out and saying it just yet, but these guys are 100 white, ethnic Christians, Christian nationalists, 100%.

And, and I, I, I just, people, I started getting phone calls from authors and across the country and, and people that were do documentaries and film and stuff. And they all had questions and pastors as well that this, this movement was creeping into churches.

And I'm not just the reform community. I mean, Anglican, Lutheran, non-denominational, and it was very, very troubling. And I let them know, I go, well, if this is happening right now, they're going to start getting bolder and bolder and bolder and start revealing more and more.

And they're going to go into this whole Jewish mysticism thing. I mean, not mysticism, Jewish cabal, because that's at the, like people like Patriot Front or a white Christian nationalist movement that believe that there's this Jewish cabal and all there, there's a evil Jew behind every tree and they're at the root of everything.

And, and they, they, what they do is they mix, they mix Christianity with this ethnic superiority that is, it's demonic and it's not Christian at all. But let me just emphasize again, this, the, the people like Webb and Stone Choir and stuff like that, they, they fall into the ethnic Christian nationalism, but this has nothing to do with like the Doug Wilson Christian nationalism.

It's, I don't even know why they're.

Using that phrase. It's completely ridiculous. Yeah. And, and I realized this is going a couple of months ago now, we had someone that called up at the ministry, actually had emailed the ministry first and asked whether he would be able to get some time with me because he, he wanted to discuss the issue of racism and he wanted to see how well, he had an argument that he wanted to see if it was a good argument.

And essentially he was saying that, it took me a bit to get to what he was actually saying, because he's beating around the bush a while, but he basically was trying to say that America was founded as a white Christian nation, not, not a Christian nation, but specifically white.

He said that the founders never had any plans for, you know, for Christianity should never be anything but white. And I mean, it was, I will admit one, you know, I mean, I told him over and over again why his arguments were bad.

I pointed out how many logical fallacies he had, he was making to make his argument. And he just kept changing the argument. Like he just kept sticking with it. I said, well, you know, you asked whether this argument is good.

I've told you several times it's not, and I've given you the reasons why it's not sure why it's the fallacies. I've shown why it's not valid, not cogent, you know, different things that we talk about in logic.

And he just, he wouldn't give up on it. It was funny because at one point, you know, he's saying he's read all the founding fathers and he referred to the founding fathers, James Adams. And I said, well, I don't know who James Adams is, but I know that, you know, John Adams would, because I've read his stuff, would have been completely against the, you know, what you're saying.

And he was the guy who wrote the declaration of independence that Thomas Jefferson then, you know, had further worked on. And he's like, oh yeah, that's what I mean. The second, the president. Yeah. Okay.

His name is not James. Okay. That can happen, right? People can mix things up. I do it all the time, but I did think it was kind of funny because it was like, you know, and throughout the conversation, he's like, okay, I'll give you that point.

Okay. I'll give you that point. You know, I'm telling you why your argument's bad. You're having to give up your points and then try different arguments and you don't give it up. I mean, I was talking to a friend afterwards and I wish I had thought of this.

It wasn't original with me, but a friend of mine, he's one of the board members at Striving Fraternity, he goes, you know, well, that's really crazy because if you think about it, all of Christianity owes a thanks to African pastors, right?

Augustine, he was from Africa, folks. He was really black. So I'm like, I was like, that's a brilliant argument. Like, how are you going to say that Christianity is a white religion when some of its greatest, first off, the folks that would have written the Bible would have been more of a brownish color, if you want to even argue that way.

And the most, you know, the pastors that gave us such a great theology, you have Augustine. Before Augustine, you had a debate over whether Jesus was God or whether he was simply a man. And Athanasius argued for this, gee, where is he from?

Oh, Africa?

Africa.

In fact, I forget his nickname, but it was sounding like he was referred to as like the black preacher or something like that, or the dark preacher, I forget, you know. But it's like, so our core theology is developed from early century black pastors.

And this guy was trying to say that Jesus intended for Christianity only to be white. And I was like, man, this really is beyond this. And then we started working on a book with some guys. We have an organization we're putting together called Truth Fellowship for folks who back in the, you know, when COVID and all pastors who were kicked out of their denominations or people who were willing to take a stand for the truth, and people just didn't like it.

And so many of us got together, and we have some things that we said, well, what are we going to stand for? And we came up with that, and we're going to write a book on that. But in the process of it, we decided we really wanted to, you know, and I'm just going to say this for the record, it wasn't me that said we should have as part of the 12, 13 tenets of what we stand for being standing for Israel.

And I was like, you know, when we discussed it back and forth, I was like, but why that? Like, why is that such a big deal? And when they started telling me, and I had the guy I'm referring to, Pastor Seth, he was on my Apologetics Live show the last two weeks, but when he was explaining what, you know, what was going on, I really couldn't believe it, you know, and he was like, you know, and I haven't, I still haven't put enough of the time in to check things out, but it's like, you know, he was saying that Joel Webben's doing a whole series on, you know, basically an anti-Israel series.

I haven't watched it yet, so I don't know if that's actually what it is, it's just what he claimed. And I started to see, like, as I started getting into that, and these guys wanted to debate Joel Webben, and I, you know, I offered that we could use Apologetics Live, and so I just said, hey, you know, we do this, we do this debate, and, or we set up a request for a debate, and man, these guys that follow him, I don't know what Webben is believing, but the folks who are following him, I'm just like, wow, and even someone who I knew personally that, okay, granted, he was a pastor who had disqualified himself, that doesn't mean that everything he says is wrong, okay, but he's, you know, he's no longer, or shouldn't no longer be in ministry, but the thing that amazed me is, like, he just totally bought into this, and I'm like, this is a guy who is a, I would say, when it came to theology and stuff, a clear thinker, and just all the followers that are coming out, I'm like, wow, what's going on?

So I realized, you know what, you were right, this is a bigger issue than I thought it would be. I get the fact that, you know, people think, oh, because I'm Jewish, I'm going to be cited one way. In fact, I don't know if I told you this.

I don't know if I've even mentioned it on this show. I mentioned it on Apologetics Live, but I had a pastor who I don't think I had been in contact with him for a dozen years, and after, about a year after October 7th, when the Hamas attacked Israel, I got an email out of the blue.

To be honest, I didn't remember who he was. I hadn't spoken to him in so long. I had to go try to figure it out, but the email basically said, I just wanted to let you know that our church no longer will use any of your materials, and we as a church will not support anything you're doing because you are not saved, because you're Jewish, and you cannot repent.

You are an enemy of Christ, and, you know, a bunch of scripture passages, and I just was like, this is one of those times where it's like, you know, there's, I didn't even respond. I just delete the email, just gone.

Like, I don't even want to see it, because it's like, there's no response. I'm going to give it that, like saying that because someone's Jewish, they cannot be saved. Well, that eliminates all 12 of the disciples, and basically almost everyone who wrote the Bible that they hold to, right?

So it's like, okay, now you want to argue that they're the enemy, you know, Jewish people are an enemy of Christ. That's after the New Testament. Okay, you can argue that, but still in the one passage, there's only one passage where it refers to them as an enemy of Christ.

I went and looked it up when he gave it to me, and right there in that context, Paul's saying he wishes he could die for the Jewish people. Like, he sees a future hope for them, but right now those that are not believing are an enemy of Christ.

Well, oh, I'm sorry, go on.

Yeah, no, go ahead.

No, it's what's wild. It's, you know, when you look at cults, cults surround themselves, encompass themselves with conspiracies, and that's what helps drive them and motivate them, and they just go off into rabbit holes and come up with a whole different type of theology.

It's the same here. So, this type of thing, there's all these conspiracies, because you look at our society here in America for the last 10 years, all right? A lot of stuff was coming out. You know, you had COVID, you had the government's lying to us, and all this type of stuff, and then a lot of people just weren't believing anybody, including their own pastors, and so there was a war on truth in the last 10 years, especially not just in our society, but, you know, in the home and in churches, and then all this, you know, people started not going to church, and people started, you know, just listening to every hoo-ha on the internet and to shape and mold their doctrine, and, you know, I can, my calls for the young men out there that are falling for this, and I can see why, okay?

They've been being told they have to use pronouns. Their masculinity was attacked. All this was happening in the last 10 years, and it's really sad, you know? That's why I started passing the torch. I really felt bad for these young men that were starting getting into this militant Christianity, and it's like this hyper post-mill theonomic, you know, but it's like morphed into something way different now, and it's just all these conspiracies and everything, and, you know, I told people two years ago, I go, watch, this is going to go mainstream.

I guarantee you 100%. This is textbook. This is going to go mainstream, and next thing you know, the guy that started the, he wrote that Trash World book, Iskar, I think his name is, he went on Tucker Carlson, and then Doug Wilson went on Tucker Carlson, and then Nick Fuentes, and then it's gone mainstream now, you know, and now this whole ethnic Christian nationalism, I mean, brother, I was getting phone calls from their camp trying to warn me about the Jews, trying to warn me about the, and very, had several civil conversations, but the argument's always this, all right?

So, and it's such a weak argument. It goes, happy, what is an American? And I go, somebody that's a citizen of the United States of America, and they go, so if you move to China, does that make you Chinese?

And I go, well, if I gave up my citizenship here in the United States, became a citizen of China, I would be a Chinese citizen. They go, no, and I go like this, okay, look it, what's the national language of China?

Right? And they go, well, I go, don't say Cantonese or Mandarin. I go, there's over 250 different dialects, I mean, there are different indigenous languages to China. And I go, what's the ethnicity of China?

And he goes, well, yeah, Chinese. And I'm like, no, there's 56 different indigenous ethnicities in China. And he goes, well, what about Japan? I go, I could do this all day long. You're trying to tie, I go, you're trying to tie the ethnicity to a nation.

And that's just dumb. You're not going to find one pure race on the planet. And I go, the problem is, is sin doesn't discriminate. It doesn't care what color you are, what size you are, what nation you're from, or anything.

Whatever some Jew owning a porn store would do, I expect that. We live in a fallen world, you know? And this is my plea to these guys. I mean, this is all weak, weak arguments, but yeah, very anti-Semitic.

And I'll just add one more thing. When you really press these guys on this, they go like this, look at this. I don't hate anybody. They always say that. I don't hate anybody, all right? But I can love them over there.

I'm like, that's separatism, bro. That's 100 separatism. And I go, do you believe in immigration? And they go, I think we got an illegal alien problem here. And I go, okay, I'll grant you that. But what's the solution?

He goes, well, we just got to get him out of the country. And I go, and who else? Well, and the Jews and the Hindus and the blacks in them. And I go, yeah, okay. And they'll all say the exact same thing.

But no, Joe Webb is doing a thing with Nick Fuentes on the evils of the Jew. And it's just so stupid. It's disheartening because people are just eating us up going, oh, oh, you know?

Yeah. Well, this is like leftist talking points and they're buying into it. I'm like, wow. And so it's mind boggling. Now, I said this on the Apologetics Live show that we did. We actually did a combination of Apologetics Live and the Theology Throwdown show that I do.

And so we combine the two into one. And I had said, I really think that what was behind this for many Christians is they, and I do think that some of it is theological, where they've gotten out of balance with covenant theology.

It starts with covenant theology that Israel is the church, and I'm going to say the majority of covenant theologians don't believe this, but I do see that the early arguments that were being made were that there is no Israel today.

I had a person who online was saying that to me. I said, what's that land that we call in that region next to Jordan that is established in 1948? What do we call that? He's like, well, that's not Israel.

And what they seem to be getting to is they don't want to see that God might have a future for Israel in prophecy, and that the church is Israel, and therefore, to have Israel, even if it's a nation today, those that hold that it is a nation, there's some that don't believe it is, which is just odd to me, because do you do that with any other nation?

But I think that so much of it is their view of struggling with their theological position and wanting to prove that God is not doing anything with Israel at all anymore, and I think for some it's starting there, and then this whole thing that you're seeing with it's able to prove that these different people that are Jewish that would say they're Israelites, oh, well, they're not the children of God, and that's not Israel, and it's very mind-boggling to me, and I think that as we look at it, we have to realize that, yes, there are times where we can be out of balance even with good theology to where we start taking things and trying to see what we see in the world and in society and read that into the Bible.

Now, I just made that case, what I see with people that take their theological system of covenant theology, and I think they're doing that, and I'm gonna just state up front, yes, there's many, maybe even many more dispensationalists that do that too, because they're looking at 1948 and going, oh, see, see, that's proof, that's proof.

I can't say that Israel being a country today is proof that God is continuing to work with Israel and that this is prophetic, because I don't know that that's what's happening. Now, if it fulfills all the scripture that was said, then yes, right?

I mean, but Israel could disappear and come back again, and God could work with them later, right? So we always have to be cautious and not say, well, this is the proof.

Israel, Covenant Theology, and the Visible and Invisible People of God

Yeah, I believe that when it comes to like, so this whole Jewish conspiracy that we're the goyim and that there's this, that they want to rule the world and make us their slaves, that this is what they talk about, make us, I mean, make them us their slaves and that, you know, they want us to go under the Noahide laws and all.

I go, these are arguments that have been around forever, man. These, I mean, these claims have been around all the time, and you know, it's just, it's weird, man. You know, I don't know, because when you look at it, they think like Israel, these people think Israel is like, Judaism is like really huge in Israel, and it really isn't.

The vast majorities of Israelites over there are secular and don't believe in God. It's very, very small, small, small group that actually believe in the Old Testament. Not only is it within Israel,.

It's a small segment. They're not in power because, you know, they don't get into the politics. That's part of the whole issue. They kind of stand against some of the politics, but the, like, okay, some of the arguments, they don't, people don't like what Netanyahu does.

I don't care what world leader you have, except for Christ, when Christ reigns on earth, every world leader is going to have issues because they're sinful men.

Yes.

So, yeah, we're going to be able to find good and bad with every one of them.

Yeah.

And so, it is kind of confusing to me how, well, you know, I don't like what Netanyahu does. Well, okay, but, you know, that doesn't prove that Israel's not a country or that God's not doing something with them.

God's, there's nowhere in the Bible that you see the United States. I mean, you'd have to, you have to really stretch to read the United States into the Bible. So, for people to argue that this is the center of where God is working.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's, yeah, I think that they want to go back to this golden era of America, and I'm like, there's never been a golden era of America. There's never been a golden age of Christianity. There's never been this golden age that you guys thinking that we got to take back our nation and kick the foreigner out and do all this and that.

And my whole thing is, okay, you want a Christian nation, you know, then why don't you change your own block? And then from changing your own block, do something in your city, build where you're at, do something to advance the kingdom of God instead of another dang podcast talking about all this type of stuff.

But, you know, I go, what they're calling for now is violence. And I said, that's the end result right there is violence. Violence is what comes next. And if we, you know, in none of this is, is Christ-like.

And we got, again, the, what happens in Israel, I, to be honest, I really don't even care what happens in Israel. I live over here. I live in Idaho. I care what happens in my hometown. You know, I evangelize here and preach the gospel here.

And, you know, and, but yeah, it's, it's just like fantasy and fables and it's just ridiculous, you know?

The Danger of Tribalism, Conspiracy, and Violence in the Church

Yeah. And this is where, when I look at this, there's, there is a focus on Israel because that's, I mean, that is where the Bible was written. That's the, where God was, who God was working through. I find as I've been talking with folks, covenant theologians, we end up talking and it's like, oh, we agree more than we disagree.

In fact, we got, you guys got the Open Air Theology Conference coming up. And originally Jeff and I, Jeff Rice, who, you know, does that conference, you know, organizes, at his last conference that he had, he was like, we should do one, you know, on who is Israel.

And so he's like, you and I, we can have a, we should have a debate on this. And I said, okay, but we got to kind of define terms because I don't want to be talking past each other. And as we started talking, he's like, you're more covenantal.

You know, like, no, you're more dispensational. See, a lot of this is we talk past one another in what we mean by who is Israel. And I think that's a major issue that people struggle with. And just to be real quick, I mean, you could go back to the Apologetics Live or Theology Throwdown that we did a couple weeks ago, but on how Christians should respond to Israel.

But the thing is, my view is that just as we have what we refer to as the visible, invisible church, we have a visible, invisible Israel. And once you do that, things marry up fine. And I don't see the difficulties that, you know, everyone tries to point out.

But if you have a visible church that's made up of believers and unbelievers that gather regularly, and you have an invisible church, which is made up only of believers everywhere in the world, we have the same thing with Israel.

You have a nation of Israel that was made up of believers and unbelievers who would gather together as a nation and whether it's worship God, do civil things, but they were believers and unbelievers, but they were called Israel.

And then you have this invisible Israel called spiritual Israel that's made up only of believers everywhere. And so, if we're going to compare invisible church to invisible Israel, I can see a lot of similarity.

If we're going to compare the visible church to the visible Israel, I think it's going to be very different. But what I see people do is they take the invisible church to the visible Israel, and that's an apples to oranges type of thing, right?

So, that's kind of, I mean, that seems to be something that helps a lot of people when I explain it for them to see, oh, okay, I see what you're doing there, right? What I'm trying to do is let's get something where we can agree.

So, why do you think that this is so dangerous? Because you explained this to me years ago from your background, you know, being a skinhead. What is it you see as the danger this brings to the church?

Well, it's all in the name of Christ. You know, that's, it's all in the name of Christ. Like somehow we're the princes, and we're the kings, and it's up to us to advance the kingdom of God. And I think the danger comes is to when, where's the gospel in any of this?

Where's our hope in any of this? Our hope, our identity is in Jesus Christ. It's not in a, in America. Our identity is in Jesus Christ. And when you try to bring Christ down here and start making him in our image, it's going to spiral out of control.

Friendships, I've watched marriages go down, churches, pastors, and it just wrecks and ruins relationships. And it makes Christianity out like, you know, like, what are we, are we the crusaders again?

We're going to go around and make people Christians? And, you know, become a Christian or die? And I think that it's going to lead to violence. I 100 believe that. And by the way, when me and this investigative reporter started making this stuff public and started calling these guys out, that reporter got death threats sent to him on his phone, his phone saying that from these white Christian nationalists, saying that they were going to rape his wife.

All right. And then they were sending him sex toys in the mail where he has a little kids. They, they showed up out here in front of my store. And we were just like, that's not a wise thing to do. You know, it's Idaho.

Everyone carries. Yeah. And so, yeah, they, and let me tell you, real ethnic Christian nationalists, they will hurt you. That's a fact. All right. And it does lead to violence. And what I was saying a couple of years ago, I go, this type of talk, we have unstable people out here in America.

All right. We got, there's a lot of issues and then you got people running into mosque because they believe these conspiracies and this nonsense. And they hear this over and over again. They go and not to mosque into synagogues and start firing on Jews or start going into Christian churches and doing this and stuff.

And so their language has consequences and believe it or not. I, I, so I work here at my brother's store in Idaho and we got this joke. We have people that come in here every day and tell us about the Jewish conspiracy that aren't Christians that aren't Christians at all.

They don't believe in Jesus at all. So if the secular world, those that know not Christ are saying that saying this and these white Christian nationalists are saying the same thing the world is saying, then this is not of Christ.

This is of the world. And, and that is what it comes down to. This is coming from the evil one, the liar and the deceiver. This is not coming from Christ. And so, yeah, that's my.

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